On my podcast It’s a Lot this week, I was thrilled to interview Hayley DeRoche (who you might know as Sad Beige on TikTok) about everything from their creative process to working through grief, from fostering and adoption to what happens when your kids love Jar Jar Binks. It was a really fun conversation and I learned a ton from their perspective on creativity, parenting, community, and more.

Pick up a copy of her fantastic book, Dress Your Baby in Sage and Taupe: A Handbook for the Sad Beige Parent anywhere you get your books! You can even ask your local library to get a copy if they don’t have one yet.